April 29, 2010

Women to Start Serving on Submarines.

FOXNews.com - Women to Start Serving on Submarines, but Not Everyone's On Board

Read the whole article here.  I am not a misogynist, or a bigoted sexist.  Women can and do perform 99% of all jobs in the world as well as men, and the opposite is true as well.  But I feel this is a severely ill conceived, bad, idea, below are some excerpts from the article.

Another exclusive "men's club" is about to go coed: The U.S. Navy will soon allow women to serve on submarines…

Quotas and basically Affirmative action, which I am always against.

…But now, with the introduction of its new Trident guided missile submarines -- subs as large as the defensive ballistic missile submarines but outfitted to carry out offensive missions -- the Navy says it finally will be able to offer women both privacy and a viable career path.  (-because the Navy is here for you, not the other way around)

85 Mk VII Mod 0 Torpedoes …Check

5000 rounds ammo ball type .30 Ca….check

128 MkII Mod 3 Life Preserver Orange….check

3 Officer, Junior Grade, Female…check

Just one more piece of standard equipment.  “Well captain we have almost all of the staff figured out, but we still need to fill the ship’s  standard complement of women”  And once those three are on board, If I were a woman I think I would always wonder ‘am I here because I was good, or because they needed three females per boat?’

Because a junior officer's room was designed to bunk three people, the Navy plans to admit three women -- two junior officers and a senior officer -- onto each of its eight Trident submarine crews by January 2012.

They will have to share a bathroom with nine men, but the Navy says the crew will use a simple reversible sign to indicate who is using the facilities, enabling both sexes to get the privacy they demand. No modifications required.

…The Navy hopes the penalties for "fraternizing" -- ranging from fines to dismissal and two years' confinement – will ease some of those concerns.

…One issue [the navy] is dealing with is whether the policy will carry over to the enlisted ranks, where more than 80 sailors, some as young as 17, sleep nine to a room and share two bathrooms.

"To bring women enlisted on board we'd actually have to make modifications to the ship," he said. "I can't tell you exactly what they would be, because although we're beginning to look at this, we really haven't gone far enough down the road to determine which submarines we're going to put them on and how we're going to make sure they have privacy."

The Navy says it isn't having a problem meeting its recruitment goals for enlisted sailors, so it has time to explore the issue. And it sees no better starting point than admitting female officers…

It is just simply not a smart idea.  Who does it really benefit? 24 women in the entire Navy?  Does it really increase the Navy’s capacity? I smell a rat, there is a politician at the bottom of this somewhere.

Ladies, I love you, and I value your contributions, and I am prepared to be yelled at for this… So go ahead

-KOOK

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You won't hear me yelling. I wholeheartedly agree! Oh great, now I'm gonna get yelled at too...surely you've heard it's because of horrible women like me that all the rest are held back.
2 replies · active 778 weeks ago
Thank you Snarky Belle! I have strong opinions, but I dont like being labeled as a hater. This just seems so...wrong.
and, incidentally I did hear that...I heard it was all YOUR fault that women were held back.

--My opinion is the only thing holding "those" woman back in this society nowadays is their own self serving entitlement mentality.
let's see, there's about, what, 80 men on a sub, and now 3 women. Call me old fashioned, but isn't that a reciepe for disaster. In those close quarters, what's going to be construde as sexual harassment as touching is going to be unavoidable. Given the added dangers of sub warfare, will this be another farce. Remember when the feminazi's wanted women in combat til, GASP, they learned that soldiers actually get killed in combat. That the enemy doesn't refrain from shooting because there's a woman among them. That's why we don't hear about women getting killed in Iraq any more. Once the feminazi's realized their social engineering was flawed, fatally, they abandoned the policy.
1 reply · active 778 weeks ago
appreciate the extra info Madmath and thanks for the comment
MM is right. When men and women are locked in an enclosed space together for months to even (rumor has it) years at a time, do you think men and women (even as disciplined as our military service people are) will not interact on that level?
Question: why have armies been an exclusive "mens clubs" since the beginning of time? Women did serve in auxilliary roles, but battlefield action has been strictly men.
Has anybody considered how much it would cost to refit a nuclear sub with both Men's and women's facilities?
I learned I was off on my number of sailors on a sub. It's 160. How do they put so many people in such little living space? Women always want their pirvacy, how the heck are they going to get it? What's going to happen when the torpedos start flying and like in the infratry, they start dying? Other countries use women, socialist countries like Austrlia, Sweden (there's a country nobody should emulate), Canada, but they don't have the bull's eye we have. Our ships are nothing more than floating brothals now that can't even stop priates on dingys. What's going to happen when you got 3 women among 160 men in tight quarters. I think I smell lawsuits.
1 reply · active 778 weeks ago
Which begs the question, how much would it cost to refit all our nuclear subs? That takes a tad more than replacing the bathrooms.

They could do like places such as miami beach where all bathrooms are "unisex" (and anysex)

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