January 26, 2010

Did Obama Ever Imagine the Tea Party Movement?


A like minded cyber friend asked this question yesterday and I thought it was something we may have never asked ourselves and, yet, for such a simple question it is incredibly key. I do not think he did. I do not think he planned for them, anticipated them, understands them, gets them, knows how to react to them or has a plan to counteract them. Obama has never faced true conservative opposition before. It does not exist in Chicago. Other warring members of the corrupt Democrat machine? Sure, and he knows how to deal with them.

For a man with maybe slightly higher than average intellect and questionable psychological stability, does he have the stuff to face serious or principled opposition? How will he handle the presumptive scenario of sharing power with a tea party influenced senate or house? He came to power in a state with no real Republican presence, let alone a conservative or principled presence. Remember this is a guy who won his senate seat when his primary opponents were all disqualified for one reason or another.

He tells the story now of having gone door to door meeting the folks and getting his message out. Not so much. He was successful in challenging enough signatures on his opponents petitions to have them disqualified. Including the incumbent, Alice Palmer. Essentially he ran unopposed.

From what we have seen this far, this is not a man who makes compromises. Beyond the Alinksy inspired rhetoric and packaging there exists not much else. I doubt he ever imagined more than a small amount of polite hemming and hawing from the "extreme" right wing that he could easily marginalize and paint as voices from extremists.

His bag of tricks are like pebbles to the Kevlar® vest of the Tea Party Movement. In fact, they have begun to actually strengthen the movement as they are now proving to work against him. His silk tongued vocabulary and a narcissistic ability manipulate had always outwitted those around him in his circles of the politically correct vacuum of academia and in the snake pit of Chicago politics he was used as a tool by others more cunning and ambitious then he. He simply had to modify the shtick to the new circumstances. If one study his history you'll find that the pattern is essentially the same. All pomp, no circumstance.

He is utterly ill-equipped to hash out an effective strategy for the Tea Party Movement. It is why one day he is populist Obama, the next he is lashing out at Fox News, freezing spending and the next he is on vacation or not heard from for a few days. We have watched him richochet from thing to thing, searching for a strategy and hoping if he throws enough crap against the wall something will stick. With his limited patience and experience, he gives none of it enough time to see if it will work.

Watching his speeches in the last few days, his tone seems more erratic and certainly more paranoid. He keeps making references to unnamed "theys". "They'll say this, they'll say that about Obama". What is November going to look like if the mid-term results come out as unfavorably as they many predict?

It is interesting to note, there are precedents in history for this sort of unravelling. In the mid 1960s Soviet Union, after Khrushchev's policies eroded his popularity, he was put on a little "working vacation". Even in our own history, one have to only look back so far as the 1970s to reference a time when the Secretary of State, Henry Kissinger, took on more and more responsibility as the Nixon lost power, sometimes actually omitting Nixon from policy meetings. It is also widely believe that Kissinger, raised the nation to DEFCON 3 without first getting President Nixon's approval, on the evening the Soviets threatened to send troops to the region. Hmmm, does a certain crusty black pants suit wearer know her history?

Realizing the situation is fluid and anything can change, he could prove me wrong and turn this thing around. However if we continue on the trajectory that we are on and the American people still reject Obama's cure all potion of Marxist medicine, all bets are off.

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You give Obama too much credit. Slighty higher than average? I honestly believe Obama thought the words hope and change and the celebrity rock-star like aura was going to carry him.
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I guess it depends on our baseline of collective average intelligence. (:
So true. Contrary to popular belief, intelligence is NOT what score you receive on a FACEBOOK test.
Great post KMBR, I think it is falling apart too. And you are right, historically SecState has been a position of higher authority than VP. I have never been able to understand why the Clintons did what they did, but I believe they have a plan.__I wouild like to see Presidential Jeopardy between Zero and Dubya. It might be funny and surprising.
1 reply · active 792 weeks ago
VP (until Cheney) was a post that was used for nothing more than putting an old politician out to pasture or grooming a new Presidential candidate. The Sec. of State has always had nearly as much power internationally as the President himself. Hillary, however seems to have abandoned Obama, as she is rarely seen anymore. I think she is preparing for a 2012 campaign against Obama and I expect her to step down either before or right after the 2010 midterms.
I don't know, Kmbr. Part of me thinks that the powers that back him, are way bigger than anything he is, and it doesn't really matter. He's very well protected.

What I do know, is the race card has worn off. Liberals are starting to see him as more white than black, in the most general of terms. That's never a good thing. It's down to the level of simplicity right now. A slip up on his comments about gay marriage or the war in Afghanistan could get him now.

It's what the vultures are waiting for. But, I'm sensing with him? He's still got enough smarts not to screw it up. I'm sensing YOU know that too.
2 replies · active 792 weeks ago
I don't know if the power brokers sense he isn't the vehicle and he's more hard than good, they'll abandon him.

Right now, they're seeing their agenda in jeopardy with the global warming scam fall apart. Not only with Americans but also the third world and China are starting to recognize it for what it is..colonialism by a different name.
You are correct about the "race card wearing off". That is especially true within the "black community" where jobless rates among men have skyrocketed to 50% and Obama's not paying off their house or putting gas in their car. They are starting to see beyond the color of his skin and watching his actions instead of words. A black friend told me the other day that they gave obama a cat scan and it came up negative. So I see rising dissent within the local black community, and check the voting records from MA and NJ and hardly any blacks showed up to vote despite things like free bussing and free food. (paid for by ACORN)

I do believe that the only thing preventing Obama from being more gaffe prone than Biden is the TOTUS. I don't believe obama earned a Constitutional law degree, as he has shown multiple times that he knows nothing about the Constitution. I think his whole education is a fraud and he is just good at reading off of teleprompters.
The American people in their entirety are politically an unforgiving bunch (in the short term) historically. One just has to look at recent history to see examples the truth behind this and why Obama will not only lose in the midst of the mid-term elections but also limited to being a one-term flop.
Carter,Bush 41,1994 congress,2006 congress and Obama himself.

Americans see mistakes and failures in government (albeit too late) and make the corrections at the ballot box. I agree with the post for the most part and see two major corrections coming this year and 2012.
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Clinton did not lose the second time around, because the Newt run Senate turned things around and Clinton was a "hands off" President...at least where legislation was concerned. If we get a similar Senate in 2010, Obama may win a second term but just be a figurehead like Clinton was.
One more thing, Kmbr... Did he see it coming? Probably. The liberal mindset is though, that conservative values are full of hate, bigotted, etc.. So, I imagine he sees it like so many little gnats biting at his ear, while he forges ahead with hope and change.

And if he is a true liberal, he knows that doesn't mean anything. He doesn't really have to DO anything, but continue to speak against conservative values. The liberals really don't expect more than that. He's in there to keep "them" out.
No way....Obama thought that the natural cycle of recession/recovery which usually lasts 18 months would make is "big deal" (i say big as compared to FDR's "new deal") look wonderful and he would look like a great leader. The "tea party movement actually has it's roots from several small anti-government growth movements that began in the early years of Clinton. When Clinton made his "right turn" after 94, those groups were largely defanged. They still grew very slowly under Clinton and then somewhat more rapidly under Bush who claimed to be a "conservative" who adhered to "free market principles". The movement really exploded with the $787B bailouts under Bush in his last days in office. That was when Glenn Beck jumped on board and brought the "tea parties" to national attention and unified all the various pro-liberty, anti-spending groups under the 9/12 mantra. Oddly, the "tea party movement started at the same time and in the same way as ACORNTidesApolloSEIU. They were completely under the radar until Obama ran for President and woke Americans up to the cancer growing within. I fear that these two groups cannot coexist and one or the other will have to be eradicated. ACORN has more money, maybe, but the 9/12ers have an army. I saw that army 1st hand last September and it was big enough that they had snipers lining the roof of the Capitol. Now that army is twice as large and is big enough to impact elections in places like MA and NJ where there are only 3 Republicans total between the two states. Last week I attended a "small" DC works for US gathering that completely filled a moderate sized restaurant. My guess is that there were 150 there. And there are similar meeting here every day. I missed one yesterday that was supposedly 1000 strong.
To answer your question: "Did Obama ever imagine the Tea party movement?" Yes he did. Right after being elected, Obama claimed he wanted to raise an army of civillians. An army far more powerful than our military. Obama got just what he asked for. Armies are dangerous things, and historically have been known to turn on inept leaders and future generations will use the term Obama to describe ineptitude.
Obama thought that the natural cycle of recession/recovery which usually lasts 18 months would make is "big deal" (i say big as compared to FDR's "new deal") look wonderful and he would look like a great leader. Obama never suspected that his spending spree would cripple the recovery to the point that we are barely treading water during the recovery and will face the worst economic crash in our history soon. The "tea party movement actually has it's roots from several small anti-government growth movements that began in the early years of Clinton. When Clinton made his "right turn" after 94, those groups were largely defanged. They still grew very slowly under Clinton and then somewhat more rapidly under Bush who claimed to be a "conservative" who adhered to "free market principles". The movement really exploded with the $787B bailouts under Bush in his last days in office. That was when Glenn Beck jumped on board and brought the "tea parties" to national attention and unified all the various pro-liberty, anti-spending groups under the 9/12 mantra. Oddly, the "tea party movement started at the same time and in the same way as ACORNTidesApolloSEIU. They were completely under the radar until Obama ran for President and woke Americans up to the cancer growing within. I fear that these two groups cannot coexist and one or the other will have to be eradicated. ACORN has more money, maybe, but the 9/12ers have an army. I saw that army 1st hand last September and it was big enough that they had snipers lining the roof of the Capitol. Now that army is twice as large and is big enough to impact elections in places like MA and NJ where there are only 3 Republicans total between the two states. Last week I attended a "small" DC works for US gathering that completely filled a moderate sized restaurant. My guess is that there were 150 there. And there are similar meeting here every day. I missed one yesterday that was supposedly 1000 strong.
To answer your question: "Did Obama ever imagine the Tea party movement?" Yes he did. Right after being elected, Obama claimed he wanted to raise an army of volunteer civillians. An army far more powerful than our military. Obama got just what he asked for. Armies are dangerous things, and historically have been known to turn on inept leaders and future generations will use the term Obama to describe ineptitude.
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**maybe, but the 9/12ers have an army**

And maybe the will to use it. They, mostly, have a knowledge of history and things worth living (and dying) for.

The left...not so much. But they are mentally unstable, most of them. That does work in their favor, I guess.
Clay: regardless of the guy's politics, this guy ain't dumb. He got accepted into Harvard back when he was Barry Nobody. Average IQ guys off the street, even if they are black, need not apply to Harvard unless their dad's name is Rockefeller, Bush, Rothschild, etc.

Sure, he's making dumb decisions, but he is definitely not dumb. A utopian, yes, a dummy, no.
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KMBR: interestingly, the left, (favoring gun control) is most likely not nearly as well armed as we are. There is a gun for every man woman and child in this country, and probably 3/4ths are owned by people on the right half of the political spectrum. Bomb making skills come in handy too, not that I would ever encourage such things. Here in S.FL, I have 4 gun stores within a quick drive, plus we have gun shows every month usually. I believe that if there was no other resort, the army I saw in DC would take up arms to defend the constitution from threats from within.
Fredd: ...Or have friends named Soros, Rothchild, Rockefeller, Ayers and Dorn (Who both have millions if not billions invested in the radicalization of our education system working form Academia down.) Remember, Rockefellers, and Rothchilds run the FED and the Trilateral commission, both having an interest in devaluing our currency. So obama's education could easily be faked with the right contributions from the right allumni fundraisers.
I don't think anybody could have imagined this because the Tea Party movement was organically created by oppisition to Obama's policies. If Obama was a centrists that beleived in tax cuts and spending cuts, the Tea party movement would never have happended. America hasn't had a True Beleiver Far Left presdient ever! He leaves in Jimmy Carter in the dust.

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I don't think anybody could have imagined this because the Tea Party movement was organically created by oppisition to Obama's policies. If Obama was a centrists that beleived in tax cuts and spending cuts, the Tea party movement would never have happended. America hasn't had a True Beleiver Far Left presdient ever! He leaves in Jimmy Carter in the dust.

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Obama never saw the Tea Parties coming, as a matter of fact I didn't either. That said , I now see their effect, but Obama in the bubble does not and never will. Will he moderate and move toward the center--NO, in no way. He thinks this is a game and a game that he intends to win on his terms---by hook or crook! He will use misdirection in hope of fooling what he considers to be a stupid electrorate with such phoney things as a spending freeze which means little. I hope the people have seen through the fake, but only time will tell.
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I saw it coming in the early 90's when Clinton was in office. When I tried to tell people it would take another revolution (violent or not) to fix the growing problems of this country, I got quite a few tinfoil hat jokes. Now all the tinfoil hats have gone to make that retards tinfoil balloon and the revolution has begun.
Moderating would be a waste of time for obama. The only people that even could like him now are is communist base. Any one to the right of communist on the political spectrum has already made up their mind about obama.

A spending freeze of 200 Billion when you have run up a 20 trillion deficit before is not only a joke, but an insult to the American people and will be seen as such.

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