July 13, 2009

While the Left was busy making fun of Michelle Bachman

Great post, Hat Tip to New Conservative Generation

While the Left was busy making fun of Michelle Bachman

Monday, July 13, 2009


I’m amazed at how far out of touch the left is with regards to the possibility of a one-world currency. It’s a concern Michelle Bachman has become known for voicing. Yet, the left has littered the internet with commentary about how crazy Bachman is for believing that there is a movement for a one-world currency. I find myself both amused and frightened by their myopic and baseless need to denigrate someone over an issue that is absolutely true. Regardless of whether you think Michelle Bachman is a crackpot, there are very real, very serious, and very plausible movements in the world to bring about a one-world currency.
If you are out there on the left, you may want to stop reading right now and turn on MSNBC. What I’m about to tell you is very disturbing and likely to damage your mantra of hope and change. Honestly, the opinion of the world is that the US monetary/fiscal/banking system caused the recent economic downturn. Everyone on the left says, “That’s common knowledge. America is to blame for all problems in the world.” Here is where the lefties jump off the train; Obama’s Spend Big, Spend Often, and Spend Irresponsible fiscal policies solidified this perception and now there are governments in the world seeking to diminish the role of the dollar in the world and implement a diversified one-world currency.
This is very true. Bloomberg reports:
“Russian President Dmitry Medvedev has repeatedly called for creating a mix of regional reserve currencies as part of the drive to address the global financial crisis, while questioning the dollar’s future as a global reserve currency. Russia’s proposals for the Group of 20 major developed and developing nations summit in London in April included the creation of a supranational currency.”
The key here is to connect the terms “one-world currency” and “currency diversification. The popular thought for a one-world currency is to create a currency that is based and "pegged" to a large basket of world currencies.
A little economic history lesson for you:
The world does not do business with a hodgepodge of currencies, but with the dollar. Either by literally trading in US dollars or by foreign currencies “pegged” (when a government has a store of dollars to give their currency value) to the dollar. With recent out of control spending by Obama, governments of the world are beginning to question the US’ solvency and ability to pay its debts.
The Bloomberg article I linked to above shows that India is getting on board with the idea. Russia, China and Brazil are already on board. Today, Geithner is in Saudi Arabia trying to stem the one-world currency train. Laughably, Geithner is arguing the stability of the dollar even as the administration he represents is talking about more stimulus.
So, while you on the left were busy making fun of Michelle Bachman for bringing the “one-world currency” development to the forefront of debate, the rest of the world was busy laughing at you and trying to find a better way to protect their nations from your destructive and narcissistic economic policies.

New Conservative Generation: While the Left was busy making fun of Michelle Bachman

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blackandgoldfan · 820 weeks ago

Did you see the first comment left on this post at newgen? You've GOT to check it out!!!
Actually, by the time I am done with "Bankrupt America" minds may be changed about this. I believe the dollar is done. If you think I want to see the dollar go, you're crazy but once you see the whole puzzle put together and the big picture it makes, I think you may see things in a different light.
This blog is excellent. I'll be coming here a lot to read your views. Thank you for your candidness and honest postings! I look forward to exchanging ideas and thoughts as we move forward.
2 replies · active 820 weeks ago
Thank you for the kind words Eric!
Thank you from me too. While this is KOOK's post, and was originally his blog, we both share in the posting and responsibility for what is said. We aren't preferential to political parties, we are preferential to preserving our Constitutional Rights. One of those is Free Speech which we engage in frequently here. We try for the most part to keep things clean, and we do not care for personal attacks. When you disagree with us, say so, just please, no personal attacks, because after people attack us or other bloggers, we have an odd tendency not to be very nice to the attacker. Thanks for joining up. one last word, don't just believe someone not even us. Double check everything.
I think they are alert, but when it happens they want the element of surprise to protect them come election time.
Hey Kook. Thanks for the post! I really appreciate it.
1 reply · active 820 weeks ago
no problem anything for a fellow brother in arms
Wow. See, here's where we don't have a level playing field. I had a complete response to this two days ago, but I put it away, because it would have hurt somebody's delicate sensibilities.

The only way to arrive at this conclusion is to combine a complete misunderstanding of the global economy (and, incidentally, there is no one, single global economy, it's a mix of each country's individual systems interacting with each other to various extents), a Bachmann-like affinity to the New-World-Order school of conspiracy theory, and a complete misrepresentation of why we on the left began laughing so hard at this particular wide-eyed lunatic.

We go back to the source material, and we find that what Ms Bachmann said was "The President may not enter into a treaty or other international agreement that would provide for the United States to adopt as legal tender in the United States a currency issued by an entity other than the United States."

This is a bill intended to prevent a "global currency" being forced upon Americans; a Constitutional amendment which would have required subsequent passage by the legislatures of all 50 states.

It's about preying on people's gross misunderstanding of international finance and how reserve currency works. Bachmann seems to think America can somehow control what the world uses as its medium of international trade, and seems to now be fearful that international trade will no longer be pegged to the dollar.

But that particular horse has been long gone from that particular barn. The Bretton Woods system, which in fact pegged international trade to the dollar, expired in 1971 thanks to policy changes made by the Republican administration of Richard Nixon. Since then, the dollar has remained the de facto "reserve currency" of choice -- mainly because the United States has remained the world's preeminent economy.

Now, thanks to conservative mismanagement of the past decade and more, that position is in serious jeopardy -- which is why the international community is looking to create a more stable form of reserve currency in which they can invest. It doesn't mean dollars will cease being bought by other nations -- if our economy rebounds to its former strength, the dollar will remain a favorite form of reserve currency.

Bachmann's continuing suggestion that Tim Geithner lied to her is manifest evidence of her utter incomprehension of the entire situation:

“Yesterday, during a Financial Services Committee hearing, I asked Secretary Geithner if he would denounce efforts to move towards a global currency and he answered unequivocally that he would," said Bachmann. "And President Obama gave the nation the same assurances. But just a day later, Secretary Geithner has left the option on the table. I want to know which it is. The American people deserve to know."

Asked today about a currency proposal from China at a Council on Foreign Relations event, Secretary Geithner stated he was open to supporting it. Despite attempts to clarify his remarks later in the day, the unguarded initial response calls into question his true intentions.

Although Title 31, Sec. 5103 USC prohibits foreign currency from being recognized in the U.S., the President has the power to engage foreign governments in treaties, and the President is principally responsible for the interpretations and implementation of those treaties according to the Constitution. As a result, legislation prohibiting the President and Treasury from issuing or agreeing that the U.S. will adopt an international currency would need to come in the form of a Constitutional Amendment differentiating a treaty used to implement an international currency in the U.S. from other types of treaty agreements.


But here's what Geithner actually said::

"I haven’t read the governor’s proposal. He’s a very thoughtful, very careful distinguished central banker. I generally find him sensible on every issue," Geithner said, saying that however his interpretation of the proposal was to increase the use of International Monetary Fund's special drawing rights -- shares in the body held by its members -- not creating a new currency in the literal sense.

"We’re actually quite open to that suggestion – you should see it as rather evolutionary rather building on the current architecture rather than moving us to global monetary union," he said.

"The only thing concrete I saw was expanding the use of the [special drawing rights]," Geithner said. "Anything he’s thinking about deserves some consideration."

The continued use of the dollar as a reserve currency, he added, "depends..on how effective we are in the United States...at getting our fiscal system back to the point where people judge it as sustainable over time."


Memo to Michelle Bachmann: Special drawing rights are not a new currency. We won't be buying our groceries with them.
4 replies · active 820 weeks ago
If you are speaking as to my delicate sensibilities, I think you are sadly mistaken, friend. See, while I asked you to correct certain things regarding previous issues, I actually did myself what I asked you to do. I took everything on this blog down and wrote an apology named "corrections" as I believe it is wrong to ask someone else to do something one is not willing to do themselves. I went over to your blog and saw more of the same nonsense that started all the drama in the first place. I said okay, fine. I came back here deleted the apology, we worded "corrections" replacing my apology with a statement that name calling continues over there and I am done with all of it. I believe that our mutual actions proved your "better man" point perfectly. I fixed things on my side, and have not bothered you since. And as for the level or unlevel playing field, I tried twice to give you the most level playing field possible. All I ever got back was name calling. As I stated here multiple times since, I'm done arguing. You can make all the comments you want. I will not bother you anymore.
Actually given new information that has recently come to light, we are likely going to have to switch to another currency as the dollar has been systematically destroyed by the Federal Reserve. The only reason we are still using it is because people still believe in the "system". They haven't figured out that our money is totally worthless. When they do, hard times shall arrive my friend, on a level most of us can't even imagine. And by the way, this did in no way shape or form come from Beck or Hannity or Limbaugh. This info came from elected officials unhappy with what they discovered after taking office after the 1992 elections.
NC, the problem is that you are still listening to what they say vs their actual actions and the things not said in an open forum. Many times these people say things when they are reasonably confident that it is a private audience that they would never say to the public at large. So keep on being Chamberlain, "peace in our time", if you feel you must
Roosevelt, Wilson, Hoover, Roosevelt, Truman, Johnson, Nixon, Ford, Carter, Bush, Clinton, Bush, and Big O all suck(ed). There are things that Ike did that were even pretty questionable. Believe it or not I do not even agree with every decision of Reagan. Lincoln said some things that make me wonder...
But you also need to look at who was in congress for most of all of those presidencies to get the real feel for what was done to us. We have not had a truly conservative congress full of part time states-people in well over 100 years. Anytime you want to compare the looniness of congress people, I will take my girl Bachmann against any number of the left's best players. Frank? Schumer? Reid? Pelosi (pelosi lied, people gurgled), FRANKEN? puhlease....
That is the total definition of Sheeple. We aren't blindly following anyone. These people that follow their chosen party so blindly don't question anything anyone in their party does. I guess if such people want to drive off a bridge with their favorite Democrat (happened before and passenger didnt fair so well) or Republican then so be it.
And how the heck do either one of you get a comment that long when I have to split mine into two? That drives me crazy.
"Here's where we don't have a level playing field" really?
Now you are a victim? But of course you are.
I think your have a well formed argument, I will give you that much. It isn't a slobbering mantra of "Bush lied People Died!". But you can comment here all you want until you start that nonsense. You also have your own blog where you can say what you want, just like we can say what we want on this one. Let the readership numbers decide which worldview is the way things are and which is the way people wish they are. Then you can comment to leave a link to your post...and see if anyone agrees with you.
"This is a bill intended to prevent a "global currency" being forced upon Americans; a Constitutional amendment which would have required subsequent passage by the legislatures of all 50 states."

Study your constitutional law, NC. Treaty ratification like constitutional amendments have to be ratified by a supermajority (2/3rds) of the states. That's what happens when you listen to Air America all day and do not double check your info.
But maybe we need a new currency to replace the debased currencies we have at the moment now that we have allowed the Fractional Reserve banking system to be perverted
http://secretlovechild.com/economics-a-business/4...
It shows just how screwed up our banking system has become
1 reply · active 782 weeks ago
The whole idea of the "Federal Reserve" was a perverse concept. The idea of putting control of our currency in the hands of the ultra rich bankers who were financing the arms race that led to World War 1 was total progressive insanity. The notion of going off the Gold Standard, and after WW2 making the dollar the world currency, subjecting Americans and our economy to the whims of worldwide economic tides are all results of progressive insanity. Fact, we already have a world economic currency. It is the dollar and it's failure exemplifies the simple fact that a world currency will not work. There are too many different nations with different interests and different agendas to have a successful world currency. All initiating a new world currency will accomplish is make a new army of "Sorosites" who will make themselves ultra rich by betting on the successes and failures of various world currencies as Soros did on the Mark. If it is your goal to create or become one of those financial power brokers who have enough money to buy world political systems as Soros and friends did in 2008, then keep supporting your one world currency and government.

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