February 01, 2010

Obama Fatigue, Liberty and Political Transformations. All Three Not Necessarily Related

I am finding myself suffering from Obama fatigue or even just sheer government idiocy fatigue. After watching the State of the Union Address, it appears Obama is poised to continue off the cliff. The only real question remains how many of us he succeeds in taking with him, how much of his agenda can be blunted and what exactly will happen in the 2010 elections. Until then, it is a watching and waiting game. Hoping also. Hoping that enough Americans awake and embrace liberty. But it seems the further one is from true liberty the less they know it's true meaning or can even envision what it would look like in it's practical form.

If liberty were to come, there is even the gamble that many would reject it in it's whole.

Some time ago, I read a piece by Solzhentsyn in which he said many people in this country believed their carefree life would continue on forever, unabated, no matter what they did. It was a keen observation. The way they were raised by parents in a country of unprecedented comfort and wealth that spoiled them. Not only their way of life but an improvement of it was a conditioned expectation. In reality, freedom can not survive irresponsibility.

Socialism and big government foster that irresponsibility. Socialism is an ideology wherein everyone owns each other, but, ultimately, nobody owns themselves. Everyone is owned by a coalition of resentful busibodies, leeches, incompetents, and demagogues. However, the idea of not owning one's self is attractive especially if they are free to engage in vice. Vice is then repackaged as a substitute for freedom.

I would guess it holds true that many conservatives or libertarians can admit to once being more socialist in nature. Growing up in upstate New York I was always intuitively more conservative than nearly anyone I encountered. That being said, the tide all around me was so low, that all things relative, my beliefs were pretty statist, looking back. My first tour of living in Europe cured me of any leftward idealists thoughts I might have. I saw first hand the discrepancy between our lives and what, in reality, was another of the "richest" nations lives. There was no comparison and the backwardness of their societies was palpable.

My abject fear of ever having such a society foisted upon us made me more nationalist, certainly jingoistic. Having the luxury of time I was able to ferret out the differences and feel out the small day to day nuances. For instance, watching as a man refused to move simple box 100 feet because moving boxes was not in his contract was a one day cure-all for any union sympathies I might have had. Also watching my neighbor take a full six weeks off of work for hay fever as he spent his days reading the paper and taking every meal out in his garden was another memorable eye opening observation. Observing human nature as it was, not as I wanted to believe it should be, was key in understanding the failures of collectivism.

As it is, no one talked me out of socialism. Like most, I had children, got a mortgage and saw how confiscatory it was to the typical family. Realistically, it took years to go from "talking point repeating drone" to conservative. Even still my political awareness is evolving. I am still recognizing the places where I accept the premise of an authoritarian big government. The places where, I myself, may reject liberty.

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A particularly fantastic piece of writing, that.____ "However, the idea of not owning one's self is attractive especially if they are free to engage in vice. Vice is then repackaged as a substitute for freedom."____That is a post idea for me right there. I love that line, and a very astute observation.__
Most "liberals" have that view about replacing freedom with vice. They support "legalizing" drugs, gay marriage, early pregnancy termination, etc. At the same time, they want to restrict how much toilet paper I can use. This leaves nothing positive to put back into society besides vice. I have libertarian leanings, and and while such views allow vice, they also allow achievement. In America, we "get" a luxury and a thousand laws come with it. Electricity was a luxury, but laws requiring use of electricity for home ownership. We got cars and roads, and lost property rights, had to buy insurance, pay taxes for road maintenance etc. If this doesn't stop, we will have have few luxuries because they will all be illegal.
Your comment is wild with paranoid thinking. I honestly don't know why you believe the United States is going to start rationing toilet paper any time soon, but I don't believe there is much I can do to free you from this belief. I do wish you a long and happy life, and may the great US socialist revolution never happen within said lifetime, forcing you to use one piece of tp at a time instead of two.

Also admire your equation of legalizing a harmless drug like marijuana, gay marriage, and abortion rights with "vices". Not only are you entirely dismissive of other people's rights to hold different belief systems from you, but you go on to speculate wildly about things that would never happen in this country provided the resources to maintain our consumptive lifestyles continue to be plentiful. Some great libertarian stylin' there!
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My pro-liberty stance is consistent. I do believe that right and wrong exist. That makes me a flat Earth Nazi, right? I stand by my beliefs that there is a right and wrong. why, just because I take a chainsaw and cut an unborn baby from a womb in three pieces just before it is born doesn't mean I did anything wrong, right?

First, I am for decriminalization of pot, by the way, but that doesn't change the fact that drugs, alcohol and things like prostitution are vices and offer nothing positive to a great society, and in fact were the undoing of the Roman and Chinese empires. Study a little history. You are the one pushing views on me that are totally biased and untrue. I suggest that you go over to the other post about gay marriage and actually read my comments on gay marriage where I state that we should GET THE GOVERNMENT OUT OF MARRIAGES ALTOGETHER AND THEN LET CHURCHES DECIDE HOW THEY WANT TO VIEW MARRIAGE. So you are both name calling, and wrong. It is people like you, spreading lies that make liberals in this country look bad. I hope that next time you come over here just to attack somebody, you will take a little more time to look over their views before you attack wrongfully as you just made yourself look like a total idiot and gave me one heck of a laugh in the process. (and by the way, the 2ply vs 4 ply debate rages on, hee hee...)
The audacity to call kmbr paranoid. Out of the three of us I think she is probably least paranoid
LOL. They won't ration TP. They'll just tax it to the point that it costs $10.00 for four rolls and then you'll self ration. (:

More seriously, I lean heavily libertarian. However, there is a huge spectrum of libertarian thought. I've seen libertarians defend adult sex with children as long as the child was consenting and actually read from forums where they condone it as almost a nurturing act.

So, some people's idea of libertarian thought makes me long for something closer to Singapore. Hence the term "small L libertarian"
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I thought this loon was talking about my comment. It took all day for me to sneak out of the rubber room do a comment. I draw my libertarian line in the sand where hurting others is concerned. If somebody is in their house and they do -—(fill in blank) as long as it doesn't hurt someone else, than keep me and the federal government out of it. Adult sex with children is very harmful to both so that is crossing (my) libertarian lines. Abortion is the taking of another persons' right to be born, which should be a costitutional amendment. That is how I view civil and social rights and at least my views are consistent across the board.
I think all three of us as well as most of our blogging friends are intellectually honest and consistent.

-Sent from my iPhone
Well, I'm glad you've decided you're qualified to anoint yourself as the most intellectually honest and consistent blogger out there! No need to ask for judgment outside of your circle :P

Seriously though, you seem to have assumed an awful lot about my beliefs from one post, and provided me with defensive and (again) paranoid replies. I'm not sure where I pushed any views on y'all, I just critiqued the things that were said. Surely that's why people post their thoughts on the internet? To create conversation? Or is this just shouting into the void?

I happen to agree that the government should just do civil unions rather than marriages, but that would never fly with the fundamentalists in this country.

The Roman and Chinese empires (which Chinese empire?) fell for myriad reasons. To imagine that prostitution caused the fall of the Roman empire isn't even in the realm of reducing a complex story to a simplistic idea, it's like you haven't even started talking about the topic yet. Also it is a topic I think is pretty much irrelevant except in the interest of historical study.
You come here, start calling people paranoid, question our values, yet you give no reason why you are right. So just why is it we should annoint you the have all, end all and be all of the blogosphere? You claimed that I said the Roman empire fell because of prostitution. BUZZ!!! bad answer: I claimed that the Roman Empire fell because of vice. The
Chinese empire I was speaking of was the same Chinese Empire that lost the opium war to England, while attempting to prevent vice from spreading through it's lands. The loss of the opium war and treaty signed because of that loss allowed England to sell as much indian grown opium as it wanted, enslaving the Chinese people to addiction for generations. So, you come here with bad history, and even worse insults and yet we have not retaliated towards you in any way. I think you are the one that is paranoid simply because you are in a fight that you and your ideology can't win. You believe that there is no such thing as right or wrong, (as long as that suits your agenda) and that is simply wrong. So, prove me wrong. Explain why your ideology is so superior. In fact you have yet to even explain your ideology, as you have done nothing but tell us why we are wrong.
I still think of myself as a constitutional libertarian. Some people may use the term to mean anarchy lawlessness and perversion; I dont think any of us mean that.

-Sent from my iPhone

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