November 30, 2009

The difference between faith, and science


The Theory of Relativity, the Theory of Natural Selection (not to be confused with religion of evolution) and the Theory of Plate Tectonics are just that: theories. These are not recognized as laws. Science does not work that way.
Scientific method works by a process of elimination. A hypothesis, or educated guess, is proposed. An experiment is designed and facts are gathered. One solid piece of contrary evidence can disprove the hypothesis but no amount of evidence in support of the hypothesis proves the theory. Dis-proving alternate or competing hypotheses is the only way to strengthen a hypothesis. This is the only logical way of handling complex problems involving many variable factors.



This is illustrated by the White Swan exercise. If I say that all swans are white how many swans do I have to show you to prove my hypothesis is true? 100, 1000, 10,000,000? No, I have to demonstrate that every swan past present or future is or was white. How many swans of any different color have to be found to immediately disprove my hypothesis? One. In the case of Einstein's theory of relativity, it has not been proven true, but all competing theories have thus far been disproven. The same with continental drift and plate tectonics. Likewise with natural selection.
So for obamarx, algore, or some other political moronic gas bag to say that the science is settled and the debate is over on anthropogenic climate change, i.e. Global Warming, is not only absurd but untrue and impossible according to the scientific method and all logic.

What it is, is a belief based on faith. I will not debate the sociological merits of religion or my particular beliefs here. Religion can and most times is a positive influence in the lives of people. But there are beliefs, that especially when taken to extreme, are destructive. The current radical followers of this movement are destructive. It does not bother me that a person chooses to believe in the green movement. We are all entitled to our beliefs. All that I am asking is that we call it what it is and not set public policy based on hypotheses which are not capable of being proven and ate NOT universally accepted.
Christianity and Greenism are both faith based ways of explaining the world.

Let me illustrate:
A long long time ago the earth and all that is in it was brought into existence. All the animals and plants lived in harmony and nature and it was wonderful. After a period of time humans arrived on the scene and became the dominant species on the earth and soon after that things began to go horribly wrong. People were wicked and did many things to hurt the natural order of things. They were warned that unless they ceased their wicked ways and returned to the more original way of things they and the earth would be destroyed. Part of man's redemption can be obtained by living in a prescribed manner and denying oneself certain pleasures. Some people are encouraged to live a life of chastity and pacifism. There are certain proscriptions against eating certain foods and rules for the proper growth and preparation of foods. Certain rules regarding sex and procreation are observed. The proper use and distribution of money is laid out. Treatment, and care of animals is discussed.


Now, what have I described, judeo-Christianity and Islam, or the green/animal rights/ environmentalist movement?

It is not science. It is a religion. It is a religion masquerading as science. And it is a false religion and poor science at that. And now we have the emails that not only prove their was an active effort to supress alternate data and hypotheses, but that the perpetrators knew it was not science all along.

As to your personal religious beliefs, believe what you want; I suppport your right to do so, let's just acknowledge that is what they are, and don't force them on me.


-Kook
via iPhone

Update:
My Good Blogging Friend Foutsc from over at Western Hero had this to add:
Good explanation, Kook. The word "Science" is thrown around to induce hushed silence in the masses, many of whom have no idea about what you just described. No shame in that, all of us are not scientists.

"To piggyback upon what you said, peer review means you turn over the raw data and your experiment methods so others can independently verify or refute your conclusions. Since they've destroyed much of the raw data, that is impossible.  Global Warming is a Global Swindle.  I posted something similar to this today." Read it here: The Fudge-inci Code, inside the global warming swindle

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Of course AGW is religion. That's why the U.N. the Zombiecrats, and leftists the world over cling to it so vehemently. They need no morals or self sacrifice or personal charity to earn their way into it.
With real religion, comes choice. That choice is made by the individual and does not force itself on others. When such religions act as governments whether they be the Catholic inquisitions, Muslims killing infidels in "holy war" or environazis trying to force communism on the world through environmental regulation, all step over the line of religion into the realm of government. True religion does not enforce it's views on others who choose a different path.
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Agreed.

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Great Post!! I loved your explanations! This AGW crap is a religion. Its an absurd religion based on falsehoods. I would almost call it a cult. I mean if you don't agree with AGW then you are shunned from the science community. The other scientists who disagree with AGW are looking for the truth as to whether global warming exists or not, while the cult like AGW believers threaten them to believe this global warming crap or lose your livelihood or means of surviving in the scientific world and in life. Thank goodness the emails reveal what a hoax this AGW crap is.
Good explanation, Kook. The word "science" is thrown around to induce hushed silence in the masses, many of whom have no idea about what you just described. No shame in that, all of us are not scientists.

To piggyback upon what you said, peer review means you turn over the raw data and your experiment methods so others can independently verify or refute your conclusions. Since they've destroyed much of the raw data, that is impossible.

Global Warming is a Global Swindle

I posted something similar to this today. Great minds think alike!
1 reply · active 800 weeks ago
You know that is a great point; so much so that I am going to edit the post to include it and link to your post
I have often said, to the disdain of both sides of the issue, anyone that can claim they can prove Evolution or Creationism scientifically, I call them both lairs. Either point relies on some faith because it can't be proven 100% true by just science. That's not the way science works. We have the same thing in Mathematics though some things can be proven for all, it's all theorical, and it just takes one counterpoint to disprove it (we prove that there is no counterpoint in the "for all" proofs). Much in math is based on some axioms that we take on faith. Yes, there is faith in mathematics. Our entire mathematical models are based on faith of a handful of axioms (unprovable truths) that we've, so far, been able to disprove the arguments against, but come up with one counterpoint that's true and the entire mathematical models would collapse. What gets me is we now have that one counterpoint for AGW and all the "scientific" methology they can claim now is "Pay no mind to the man behind the curtain." How original.
3 replies · active 800 weeks ago
The definition of "faith" is belief in things not seen. Anyone who says that creationism disproves evolution is grossly misinformed. For instance, there is no ancestor of the residents of the United States that has an average male height over 6' tall. Yet, the average American male is now over 6 feet tall. Here is proof that people living in America have adapted aka evolved to better fit their environment. At the same time, those who believe evolution disproves creationism use a scientific impossibility in the "big bang" to explain the origin of the universe. Matter cannot come from nowhere. Neither can energy. So, doesn't that make it safe to assume that those at both extremes are wrong?
I don't have any proof for my hypothesis, but I think that both evolution and creationism happened. I don't see the two as incompatible. I think that both religion and science can be simpatico with each other.
Exactly. That is why I differentiated between natural selection and differentiation of species and the trademarked mass produced and marketed Theory of Evolution as we know it.

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