November 18, 2009

Pondering the Future







I am on a plane somewhere over the Pacific Northwest. I just finished, for the second time, John Ringo's second book of the posleen war series, Gust Front. If military science fiction is not your thing then I do not suggest it. However, the author makes many many observations on what it means to be human. The value of a human life, humanity's will to survive, and courage in the face of certain doom. Some may find it strange that I am reassured by a futuristic military novel about the invasion of a reptilian species on earth. But there is a lot of history packed into Ringo's fanciful tales. The afterword of the book is something that grabbed my attention and I am not sure without understanding the preceeding story that I can relate it to you. Ringo is a lover of Kipling by virtue of his father's love of Kipling. I love Kipling by virtue of my grandfather's love of Kipling. If you have never read "IF" I suggest it. The afterword of Ringo's book is in memory of his father who fought as a combat engineer in WWII.





Basically the novel compares past heroes of the greatest generation to that of a not too far distant future's soldiers. In the end my generation is not found lacking but we have serious losses at first. I am going to quote the author because he makes some valid points regarding our current and possibly future situations.
"the societal conditions that provided the warriors for the American Army in WWII were unprecedented in history. It was a society that was more technologically advanced than any nation in the world, but had fallen upon hard times so that there was a great need for work. Also these hard times had hammered out some of the impurities in the metal (of our society) already. What was left was pretty good iron that was made into hardened steel by 1944. If a similar situation (a crisis similar to that faced in WWII) were to occur today, such would not be the case. Personally, I like the present day.
We have been living in, lest anyone be confused, a Golden Age. With it we are beginning to suffer the ills that accompany the end of a golden age (if you think there are any new ills under the sun, read your history, there aren't. But given the choice between a decadent golden age and a stoic time of privation and war ...give me the golden age. But, and there is always a but; if a situation were to occur today which called for a national will to survive it would be difficult to replicate that "Greatest Generation".






First we would have to go through the sort of pre-tempering phase that the Depression caused which would sort out the lesser, weaker impurities. Only then would we be a nation prepared for the greater test."





Ringo wrote this book ten years ago. Look at what has happened in the last ten years. I hate being morose or melodramatic and I don't like to attempt prophecy; but I think the foundations are laid for the tempering process. I think we are at the beginning of forging a new greatest generation. I think that we are soon to face the question of whether the experiment in self rule that is our nation will continue or whether, to borrow a phrase from Reagan, "we devolve into the ant heap of totalinarianism"






I think both sides of the contest would agree that we cannot keep going like this much longer; something has to give.

I have heard Glenn Beck say repeatedly that he has hope and until somewhat recently I was not sure what he meant. I think I do now, the times that lay ahead will likely seperate the wheat from the chaff. If that farmer terminology escapes you, the weak from the strong. In more direct terms it will seperate those willing to work and prosper; or fail, by the sweat of their own brow and the strength of their characters' without begging or demanding something from their fellow man; from the worthless multitudes of parasites with their hands out demanding their "fair share" while sitting on their asses.






This is going to be a painful process, but as I see it, a very very necessary one. Rome is burning and many are still fiddling and dancing. In the next few years we will again be forced to answer, as we did in 1776, 1812, 1862, and 1943 are we going to be free...or not?







That is how I am seeing it now. What do you think?


-Kook
via iPhone

Comments (10)

Loading... Logging you in...
  • Logged in as
Brilliant, absolutely brilliant. You are completely correct. I see it as us winning. I see it as our Republic standing. I see the Tea Parties, the national discontent with all pols, the historic times that we live in. I see us prevailing and turning back the clock on this progressive nightmare that progressively destroys our nation.
1 reply · active less than 1 minute ago
Thank you so much LCR. Strange things sometimes make us think. In this case it was sci-fi military fiction.

-Sent from my iPhone
Very good. Separating wheat from chaff is also a biblical term. I think a uniting event, either financially that will wake America up, just as America woke up with Pearl Harbor. Before that, demilitarization and isolationism were the majority view following WW1. In 1942, briefly we were down to one active aircraft carrier with 2 in drydock being upgraded. By 1945, we had over 30 armed with the most modern air force in the world. We also had Nuclear weapons, which were only theoretical 3 years earlier. Why did we do so well so quickly? The answer is that hard times preceeding the war had made Americans tougher. After a decade of depression, Pearl Harbor galvanized the nation and gave angry Americans an enemy to fight. Something to think about.
so I need some help here. Am I crazy? Does this need a response? Or not...how does one answer this? Obviously I think our views are polarized. And since you two seem to have a wee bit more military knowledge than me....your input or observation would be beneficial to my MIND

WILSON:
With regards to Khalid Sheikh Mohammed being tried in New York: “I don't think it will be offensive at all when he's convicted and when the death penalty is applied to him,” Obama told NBC’s Chuck Todd. ----- So, Obama does NOT believe in innocent until proven guilty, and apparently relishes in killing people. I find pre-judgement and supporting the death penalty to be VERY OFFENSIVE!

ME:
Not only that, according to my information....NY doesn't have the death penalty....declared it unconstitutional back in '04 I think
This stinks on all levels....something very screwy in Denmark

WILSON:
Yea, I don't trust this whole "show" going on.... stinks to high heaven. Another thing; they were never read their Miranda Rights.... so are they going to kick out any statements collected before their Miranda Rights were read? I mean those statements coerced through torture?

WILSON:
Only way I'll trust the system from this is if they are found NOT guilty

ME:
we have different views. The whole thing should have been taken care of years ago...for some reason this has been stalled until now....political to be sure.
A Military Tribunal is the place for them. Military combatants don't belong in our courts.
So, this whole show thing stinks, and besides I think Obama's reaction was a "knee jerk" statement to the realization he and Holder stepped in some very very big piles of dung with the public over this....

SMITH:
don’t you think trying him as a military combatant will give him the desired status of a Martyr who challenged the US military in the name of Islam? Rather than crimes against innocent people.

FRITH:
How is this military? The target was civilian. This doesn't fall under their laws. Also, at BEST these guys are patsies. Anyone who's done enough research on 9/11 knows that the overwhelming evidence is for an inside job.
3 replies · active 801 weeks ago
Here is the lowdown. Let me give a brief rundown if varying legal standings

Basic question is was 911 a crime or an act of war.
Al queda is not a legitimate government so if it was an act of war then they are unlawful combatants which mean they do not fall under the rights of the Geneva convention Nor do they fall under civilian criminal court jurisdiction.

If it was a criminal act then why did we have a military response? What rational person would think that a person captured on a battlefield should be afforded a civilian criminal trial. Since when does the united states army fulfill warrants?

The man admitted guilt and said he wanted to be put to death. Why are we even having this discussion? Eric Holder said he guarantees a conviction. If this is a foregone conclusion why have the dog and pony show.

To prosecute the Bush administration and get back at the CIA. Simple as that.

-Sent from my iPhone
Inside job? Seriously put down the bong. Or the acid. Or the crack.

Remember this. We may not be at war with them, but they are at war with us whether we like it or not.

Whatever soldier first took control of this asshole should have popped him right there and saved us a lot of bullshit

They are not criminals and they are not lawful combatants they are terrorist scum they do not have rights and they deserve to die. Their lives are worthless.

-Sent from my iPhone
Al Qaeda had support from afganistan, and likely Iran, that makes it terror.
This was excellent KOOK.

Good points I hadn't ever thought of. Promising in a lot of ways. Ugh, I dread hard times though, I have grown soft. (:
2 replies · active 801 weeks ago
Thanks kmbr, I too am a creampuff. But I think I have it in me to make it. Just because I have a nice job doesn't mean I wouldn't do whatever it takes to survive thrive and overcome. I have worked on a farm before, and there is a big part of me that longs for it.

I know I could live without iPhones, sat tv, sat Internet, a new truck every five years, DVDs, boats, Starbucks, etc. I am a country boy deep down. I would prefer not to have to live like my grandparents did in their childhoods, but Wayne county Missouri was good place to survive a depression before and it can be again. And that is where I will be if/when the nation starts to burn. I know that is what this joker wants.

-Sent from my iPhone
Necessity will harden you up quickly. You will do what you have to do to survive. If the American people don't take a stand, Kooks perverbial burning will most definitely happen. I wish more people realized the precariousness of this situation but they do not. It's will be a real shame for so many in this country to lose their freedom. I hope that does not happen, but I believe we have already passed the point of no return. The sad part is, people were warned..by folks like Beck, but they ignored those warnings and continued with their reckless hedonistic lifestyles.

Post a new comment

Comments by

Blog Widget by LinkWithin